Since I'm in a foreign company and many of my friends are in state-owned enterprises, my personal statement should still have some authority.
First of all, you can't generalize between SOEs and FEs.
As with anything, there are three, six, nine, and so on, and this, you can only compare at the same level.
Classification of state-owned enterprises:
First-class state-owned enterprises: state-owned mega-monopoly enterprises or policy banks. Such as: PetroChina, Sinopec, CNOOC, China
Mobile, China Nonferrous Metals, China Minmetals, China Development Bank, Export-Import Bank ...... Note: these for the general headquarters of the very
very high, the branch or subsidiary has a certain gap. Freshers headquarters treatment is simply ideal level. Of course, the advantage of the big
home is that the mega headquarters are generally in Beijing. Among them, China Development Bank and Sinopec headquarters treatment should be second to none
a finger.
The second class of state-owned enterprises (SOEs): the Ding-type SOEs under the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission (SASAC). "China" at the beginning are this type: China Textile, Sinochem,
China Construction, Sinosteel, COSCO, COFCO, CICC, China Life ...... Note: These enterprises are actually not the same as the above "first class".
There is no substantial difference between these companies and the "first class" companies mentioned above, but it may take some time to build up when freshers first enter the company. Of course, the treatment is quasi-ideal
level.
Third-class state-owned enterprises: other large state-owned enterprises under the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission (SASAC) or other commissions, research institutes, and state-owned big four banks.
Such as: China Light Industry Import and Export, China Expatriate Service, CYTS ...... Bank of China, Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, Agricultural Bank of China
Bank of China, Construction Bank of China ...... Note: Many people may feel that the 4 major banks are not quite recognized by writing them in. This is just my personal
opinion. Banks mainly have large differences in revenue by region, so I'm using averages here. These big companies, especially the banks, need
a longer time to build up their personal value, and then they will take a big leap forward.
Fourth-class SOEs: Beijing's large SOEs and some other *** ministry-level all large and medium-sized SOEs. Beijing Yi, Jingdong
Fang, Putian, Capital Airport ............ These state-owned enterprises are still very good. Maybe some aspects are not worse than the above mentioned second
and third class. But relatively speaking, the treatment of fresh graduates just entering these enterprises may be relatively poor.
Fifth-class state-owned enterprises: small and medium-sized state-owned enterprises. What the first letter, Beijing Boiler Factory, Beijing Tobacco Factory, Beijing Instrumentation Factory, Beijing Thermal
Equipment Corporation ...... These enterprises, although in personal development and income can not be compared with some of the previous, however, is not
where to go. I know a boiler plant in Beijing, an average of 3500 a month after taxes, every day at work most of the time to drink
tea and read the newspaper. Who called these enterprises are in Beijing it, the foot of the sky ah.
Sixth state-owned enterprises: the eastern general state-owned enterprises. These local state-owned enterprises, most of the freshmen to go are very painful ...
(not including the first five enterprises related to the above enterprises, such as what Lanzhou Petrochemical, etc., cattle ......)
Seven state-owned enterprises: general state-owned enterprises in the central and western parts of the...
The first five enterprises are the state-owned enterprises in the central and western parts of the country, which is the largest in the world. The state-owned enterprises in this place are basically backward in management and badly treated.
(Again, not including the enterprises related to the first five enterprises mentioned above).
The people who say they have nothing better to do than to criticize the state-owned enterprises
are basically from the central and western parts of the country.
Next is the classification of foreign enterprises
Class A foreign enterprises: Europe and the United States large consulting firms and investment banks. Morgan Stanley, McKinsey ...... believe that these companies are
as heard. But these companies work under great pressure. Of course, the bureau is considered a freshman, the first year of the annual income basically
will not be less than 20W.
Class B foreign enterprises: the United States mega-companies. IBM, INTER, HP, MIRCROSOFT, General ......... ... Some positions have very high incomes,
and some positions have average incomes. The better positions in these companies earn around 10W per year. Of course, it's average
, there are higher and lower than that.
C foreign companies: European mega-companies, the big four, large U.S. companies. BP, Siemens, NOKIA, Volkswagen, the four big accounting
accounting firm, DELL ...... four believe that we all understand, of course, the big four more is to bring the value of personal development
value, the first year of 7W annual salary is not the most important thing. The first year annual salary of 7W is not the most fat cake.
And some of the other European companies have relatively lower treatment than in previous years
Decrease, of course, the average annual salary of 8W is not a big problem.
Class D foreign enterprises: Japan and South Korea mega-companies. SAMSUNG, LG, SONY, Panasonic, Hitachi ...... Japan and South Korea enterprises work under great pressure
, the income is not as high as the outside world legend. Of course, such enterprises attach great importance to technical personnel, and general positions and other average
average annual salary of about 5.5W is good. I am y victimized ...... (and would have written Japanese companies in category D, Korean companies in
E ...... >>
What's the difference between a foreign company and a state-owned company? Which one is better? 50 points
First, personal treatment.
As far as treatment is concerned, of course, the Sino-foreign joint venture is the best. My annual salary in 2003 at a petrochemical in the northeast was less than 15,000 dollars. At present, the treatment in the Sino-foreign joint venture is very good, you can have a house and a car. There is also pension insurance and provident fund etc., commercial medical insurance and coordinated medical insurance. Overtime pay is three times the usual. In particular, the medical insurance is very good, the size of the disease all-inclusive, the child half-inclusive, the wife if there is no work is also half-inclusive.
State-owned enterprises only when the official can travel by plane to sleep in a soft sleep, private enterprises as long as the boss agreed to sleep in a soft sleep on the plane, Sino-foreign joint venture everyone can sleep in a soft sleep on the plane. State-owned enterprises as officials can be divided into large houses, the average person divided into small houses, young people do not have a house. The joint venture has no house, the state-owned enterprises in the festival year-end points of fruit and oil (procurement of these things less people have to fish kickbacks), the joint venture rarely points, but there is a year-end bonus (one to two months of salary).
Second, the intensity of work.
Sino-foreign joint ventures are busier, and the intensity of this work is not supervised, are their own initiative to do the work, the most relaxed state-owned enterprises. I see the management position is very easy. Because the state-owned enterprises have a lot of staffing. Our current workshop in the state-owned enterprises need to run at least three times as many people.
Third, employee relations.
SOE employees have the most complicated relationships with each other. If there is no relationship or they are not very good at dealing with interpersonal relations, the chances of promotion are very few. State-owned enterprises are busy busy dead, play play dead, but the state-owned enterprises have a benefit, you again bad, again no skill, no one dares to fire you. Sometimes in order to share the house, the average worker can break the leader's head.
Employee relations in Sino-foreign joint ventures are very simple, there are not so many hooks and corners, Sino-foreign joint ventures employee relations are better, more simple. Our company organizes family trips every year and parties between employees. We all help each other in difficult situations. In Sino-foreign joint ventures, we don't know how much our colleagues earn in a month, at least not in detail. And in state-owned enterprises we often compare each other's paychecks.
Fourth, labor unions and employee rights.
The labor union of state-owned enterprises is the most powerful, with a labor union chairman, office director, women's labor ministers, accountants, recreation ministers and so on, but they are all paid not to do the work of the Lord, and all have relations to that position. It is impossible for such a union to defend the interests of the workers, and there is never any negotiation with the leaders for raising the workers' wages.
An employee has to go through a union congress, and more importantly, the leaders of SOEs are afraid of getting into trouble. General European Sino-foreign joint ventures will not casually dismiss employees, our company has not appeared to be fired employees, leaving the company's employees are mostly three ways to go: abroad, open the company, to better Sino-foreign joint ventures. Individuals fired will generally be notified in advance to the individual, let him find a new unit, find and then leave.
V. Training.
The best training system Sino-foreign joint ventures, but Sino-foreign joint ventures generally will not hire a completely inexperienced graduate. For fresh graduates, state-owned enterprises are the best training base. It is generally difficult for students without work experience to enter a Sino-foreign joint venture, with the exception of certain positions such as production. State-owned enterprises do not expect to train specifically to send you to further training, it is very difficult to give you, that target will only be reserved for the official and the relationship. State-owned enterprises can give you the best training is: do things. You boldly take state-owned assets to practice, there is no relationship. Because whether in private enterprises or Sino-foreign joint ventures, you will not have such a good opportunity for you to test the bull's-eye. The state-owned enterprises out of the know these things.
The training in Sino-foreign joint ventures is more systematic, and even if you're already familiar with something, you may still have to train every year. This training is usually within the company or group of foreign companies, rather than sitting in a classroom and listening to lectures. And the trainers are internationally renowned training companies. I have this opportunity several times a year.
Sixth, management.
One of the favorite sayings of SOEs is "management is effective". This sentence is not wrong, but the state-owned enterprises have misunderstood the meaning of this sentence. The real meaning of this phrase is "managed enterprises out of the benefits", rather than "good management of workers out of the benefits". As a matter of fact, most Chinese state-owned enterprises are no longer capable of competing with Chinese-foreign joint ventures, and the profits of monopolistic enterprises come from policy support, while the profits of competitive enterprises have been getting lower and lower. Jilin Petrochemical once asked employees to form a line of two people into three people into an army. It sounds like a prison and a military camp. Believe it or not, this is true.
At present, there are two types of Sino-foreign joint ventures set up in China, one is an export processing plant set up to take advantage of China's cheap labor, and the other is set up to value China's market. ...... >>
Foreign companies and state-owned enterprises which is better
1, salary
Let's compare the average employee. Foreign enterprise senior annual salary is very high, the same big state-owned enterprises, the annual salary of the boss is also surprisingly high, but we have to say that there is no sense, than the ordinary employees. The average fresh master's degree. Let's choose the big foreign enterprises medium salary 7500 yuan a month. After paying taxes and insurance 5600 or so, Beijing's housing prices are still not cheap, rent a room to live in a small single room, 800-1200 a month, I take a medium 1000. so that the remaining 4600. meal company basically give subsidies, playing in the meal card, can not be taken out to eat lunch do not have to spend money. Dinner and breakfast a month 300. cell phone bill in January to spend 100. buy daily necessities to spend 200, take the car 100. then you do not buy new clothes, do not invite guests, a month of net income of 4000. a year should be issued 13-14 months of new water, the end of the year is basically no bonus. If you are very, very frugal, you can save more than 50,000 yuan. I should say that foreign companies promised you money, a share will not be less to give, will not renege on the debt. The first thing you need to do is to get your hands on a new one, and you'll be able to do that.
A joint-stock commercial bank in the country's head office treatment (note that the head office): basic salary of 1,300 a month (ordinary staff, graduate education), there are more than 1,000 monthly subsidies. Maybe you say, I have a master's degree, take more than 2000 is too little! This unit does not sign. Don't worry, wonderful in the back. Provide free single dormitory, 600 car allowance per month, 8000 festival expenses per year (May Day, November, New Year's Day, Spring Festival), there are 3200 summer vacation expenses (6, 7, 8, 9 four months, 800 per month), the Spring Festival to send 8000 yuan shopping coupons. The regularization period can not participate in the performance evaluation, so you can not take the bonus, but at the end of the year can follow the bonus with 6000 dollars. Cell phone bill to reimbursement, eat 1 yuan 1 meal (all ten yuan standard per meal), 3 yuan to eat a day. The second year after the regularization, the bonus in 20,000 - 30,000 (after-tax bonus). There are occasional gifts, fitness coupons, beauty coupons, movie tickets and other benefits. Every summer to organize a trip to the provinces, it should be said that after the transfer of after-tax (note that the after-tax oh) if the very frugal spending, a year to save 70,000 or 80,000 is not a problem. The bank is the basic salary is very low, and then rely on the welfare.
But foreign companies or private enterprise sales staff, salary is very high, according to the performance of 3% commission. As long as the sales performance is good, earn a 4,500,000 or more are no problem. But sales is difficult to do, to be able to suffer, a lot of pressure, two consecutive quarters to complete the target will be fired. The ability requirements are particularly high. Now the big companies for the sale of products to individuals (such as home computers and so on), are to let the channel business to do, because the sale of a personal product, the profit is not high. Their own sales staff, mainly to do to the company to *** of the large customers marketing. The most money is to sell equipment to ***, sold to the army, sold to large state-owned enterprises. Than say Heilongjiang mobile company to engage in telecom equipment procurement, you can buy Ericsson, you can buy nokia, you can buy zte huawei. Or Heilongjiang *** procurement of tens of millions of computer equipment, there may be Lenovo, hp, dell, Founder's sales, which choose who's equipment, depending on which sales can be a good relationship with the leadership. It is difficult to do. Party A leaders are masters, in his eyes, sales is a cat and a dog almost, so sales through various channels to recognize Party A high-level relationship is good. You may spend half a year to get through the high-level relationship, people from other companies to recognize the sales of greater leadership, your single is no longer possible, you will be opened. There is drinking, you and the leadership is not a level. Leaders drink a sip, you have to drink a cup. Leaders drink a cup, you have to drink three cups. Drink more, absolutely not when the leader spit, say nonsense. Often at noon with the leadership of this bureau to drink, drink back to sleep, and then go to another bureau, waiting for another leader. (Usually wait for the leadership to wait a few hours, because you do not know when the leadership time to facilitate) and then drink with the leadership, drink and then accompany the leadership to go to the ktv ah nightclubs, bath centers and so on. Home at night but also stay up late to write bids. So that want to do sales students, it is best to look at their own ability to meet. Really, sales of this industry is so, some people are particularly strong ability to earn a lot of money. A few years to buy BMW, buy villas. But more sales are not capable of, can not get a single fired. Feed the family are difficult.
2, housing subsidies
IBM work for three years, give 100,000 to buy a house. Other foreign companies have not heard of housing subsidies.
Most of the good state-owned enterprises headquarters have generous housing subsidies, the country's several large joint-stock commercial banks head office: 3000 per month, until the full 400,000 given. In housing, the Bank of China is to give the best. Bank of China used to have a good housing subsidy policy, last year a new president ...... >>
Freshmen to go to foreign enterprises or state-owned enterprises
Foreign enterprises first to see how your foreign language level, foreign enterprises work atmosphere is very good, foreign enterprises salary is good, but a carrot, learning things not as much as the state-owned enterprises, state-owned enterprises, you have to learn how to do, will do than will do things to mix the good, the big company to learn how to do, the small company to learn how to do.
State-owned enterprises and foreign enterprises which is better?
State-owned enterprises and foreign companies have their own advantages. The welfare of state-owned enterprises is better than that of foreign enterprises, and the welfare is better if you are a member of the party. The wages at the beginning of the state-owned enterprises are not as high as those of the foreign enterprises, but it is a gradual improvement, according to the individual's ability. It has a pension and is not easy to close down or dismiss employees. Compared with foreign enterprises, he is a private factory, the company's risk is greater, easy to be affected by the economic crisis of the market. But it does not require a high diploma, as long as your ability is outstanding you will be able to let you top. I just came back from a foreign enterprise, its wages can be very high, high some outrageous, for managers, but for the following general workers, only day and night work. Many private companies have two shifts, the day shift and the night shift. The night shift is very hard, not the average person can survive. For people with a certain level of knowledge that is cheap labor. They don't have fixed labor laws, you have to work twelve hours a day, not an eight-hour workday. And SOEs are according to national laws. In short, the state-owned enterprises are more secure than foreign enterprises, to be better, but can enter the inside of a good unit is also more difficult.
The treatment of foreign enterprises is good, or the treatment of state-owned enterprises is good
I think it is difficult to answer this question, because I don't know your situation, and I don't understand what you are referring to the treatment, salary? I think it's hard to answer this question because I don't know your situation and I don't understand what you mean by "treatment". I think it's hard to answer this question because I don't know your situation, and I don't understand what you mean by treatment, salary? And I don't know what city you are in? I don't know how old you are.
There are low-income people in foreign enterprises and high-income people in state-owned enterprises. I think first of all you have to estimate your own ability, such as education, work experience and so on. Then you need to know your career goals, such as what kind of position you want to do, which industry you want to choose. Secondly, what kind of city are you in? There are many foreign companies in the north, north, south and east, so there is a lot of choices, and the space for development is also better. If you are in the third level of the city, then it is possible to consider the local development prospects (this is very important) of the large state-owned enterprises.
If you're a recent college graduate, I'd recommend that you have the opportunity to work for a foreign company, because you'll be exposed to a lot of good foreign mature management and systems. In addition, the salary and welfare system of foreign enterprises is also more formal, such as subsidies and vacations, will be in accordance with the national regulations normally issued. But this is limited to European and American companies, Japanese and Korean companies are more harsh as far as I know.
I've been in the U.S. for more than a decade, and my friends are basically in the U.S. and Europe. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to get a good deal on this. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to get a good deal on this.
Which one is better than the other?
Of course, the foreign companies, not only have free training, but also high welfare, promotion space is also quite big
Graduation to the state-owned enterprises is good? The first is to make sure that you have a good understanding of what you are doing and how you are doing it. The advantages and disadvantages of the two?
The first time I saw this, it was a very good idea to go back to the old days, when the old days were over!
I have worked in state-owned enterprises, state-owned holding companies, private enterprises and foreign-funded enterprises, and through my actual experience, I would like to talk about my views on state-owned enterprises, private enterprises and foreign-funded enterprises. The company I am currently working for is a British joint venture in China, controlled by the British side, mainly engaged in the production, sales and service of power-related equipment. I have been working in SOEs for the longest time, having worked for a state-owned listed company in Guangxi, an electric power engineering company in Hubei for ten years, and a private company, Chutian Laser, in Hubei for some time. The following is my true feelings about the three types of enterprises.
First, personal treatment
In terms of treatment, of course, the best foreign enterprises. 1994, I was in Guangxi, a listed company's treatment is about 12,000 yuan per year, and then in Hubei, a power engineering company, if the Ministry does not travel, the annual salary of 18,000 yuan, but the welfare of the higher, the annual pension, provident fund, health care of the personal account of 5,000 yuan or so. If in the site, about double (3000 ~ 4000 yuan / month).
The current package at the foreign company is about 80,000 to 100,000 per year. There are also pension insurance and provident fund, etc., commercial medical insurance and co-ordinated medical insurance. Overtime pay is three times the usual. The "four insurance and one gold" is about three times the average in Wuhan.
I was paid 1,500 per month at Chutian Laser, and 1,800 after the trial period.
Only officials at state-owned enterprises can travel by plane and sleep in a soft-sleeper, while private enterprises can travel by plane and sleep in a soft-sleeper as long as the boss agrees, and everyone at foreign enterprises can travel by plane and sleep in a soft-sleeper. The state-owned enterprises when the official can be divided into large houses, the average person divided into small houses, young people do not have a house. Private enterprises and foreign enterprises do not have a house, but the leadership of Chutian Laser and some of the backbone of the house. State-owned enterprises in the holiday year-end points of fruit and oil (procurement of these things people are inevitably fishing kickbacks), foreign enterprises rarely points, but there is a year-end award (1-2 million).
Second, the intensity of the work
The most tired is the private enterprises, the most relaxed is the state-owned enterprises. I have held technical positions in state-owned enterprises (technicians, project specialists), secretary to the general manager and management positions (by the way, I am specialized in mechanical engineering). However, technical positions in SOEs are very tiring, the income is also the lowest, but also have to take a lot of responsibility, so there is a lot of pressure. But management positions are very easy. In the private sector to work as a technical most tired, but also very uncomfortable, a lot of pressure.
The work of foreign enterprises is not as tired as imagined. Maybe the European companies are more humane. The nature of my work requires frequent travel, the general annual working time is 250 days. The rest of the time, you can almost always take a vacation. The difference between foreign companies is that each person's position is given a relatively large power, a large degree of freedom. For example, I am doing after-sales service, a person in the field to contribute to all things related to the equipment, including acceptance, equipment handling, on-site hiring, equipment commissioning and so on. When it comes to funding issues, you can generally make your own decisions, as long as the report can be. This is different from most state-owned enterprises. The state-owned enterprises involved in the funding is very difficult to deal with.
Third, employee relations
The relationship between employees of state-owned enterprises is the most complex. I entered the power engineering company is recruited into, but most people in the power system is to rely on the relationship into, or internal children, so the recruitment into the company is often to do practical things, but if there is no relationship or they are not very good at dealing with interpersonal relations, then the chance of promotion is very little. SOEs are busy and playful, and when you first enter the company you do almost everything, and it's very tiring. Later, you can call the people who came in after doing, their own play, the name of the apprentice. But the state-owned enterprises have a benefit, you again bad, and then no talent, no one dares to fire you. Sometimes in order to share the house general workers can break the leader's head.
The relationship between employees of private enterprises and foreign enterprises is very simple, there are not so many hooks and corners, but the relationship between employees of foreign enterprises is better and simpler. Every year, they organize family trips and gatherings between employees. When it comes to difficult things, we all help each other, unlike private enterprises, which manage their own business and don't care about others. Private companies and foreign companies do not know how much their colleagues earn a month, at least not in detail.
Fourth, the labor union and workers' rights and interests
The labor union of state-owned enterprises is the most powerful, with a labor union chairman, office director, women's labor ministers, accountants, recreation ministers and so on, but all of them are just get money not to do the main work, and all of them have the relationship to get to that position. It is impossible for such a union to defend the interests of the workers, and there is never any negotiation with the leaders for higher wages for the workers.
Most private companies don't have unions. The foreign company I work for has a union, but no full-time staff, and unionization is currently limited to one trip abroad per year. It's hard to fire an employee at a SOE because you have to go through a union congress to fire an employee, and more importantly SOE leaders are afraid of getting into trouble. Private enterprises ...... >>
Foreign enterprises, state-owned enterprises, private enterprises, which is good
Look at how to plan their own careers,
Foreign enterprises are highly competitive and under pressure,
But all aspects of the enhancement of a lot of people can be obtained, in the foreign enterprises in the ten years jumped to the general of the private sector is the level of executives, the state-owned enterprises, like a camel, there is no good environment will not be subjected to major changes, so all the way to the end of the world.
The company has a lot of private enterprises, mainly depending on what private enterprises, how the development of private enterprises, small private enterprises and large private enterprise stock company is not a grade,
State-owned enterprises, private enterprises, foreign enterprises which is good
Overall, the state-owned enterprises are still quite good.
1, first of all, the state-owned enterprises is the industry are screened, many people say twenty years ago how the state-owned enterprises, but then only the state-owned enterprises, as long as the move will inevitably move the state-owned enterprises, after a round of dumping the burden, the country is still pinched in the hands of the quality assets.
2, foreign enterprises may be the biggest crisis is the mid-life crisis, the pressure of unemployment is everywhere, the performance is not good layoffs, the environment is not good layoffs, the company was acquired by the entire department are cut. But for young people, just entered the workplace, can fight, high income environment free foreign enterprises stick, very good, even travel more as a public expense to appreciate the opportunity of the great mountains.
3, private enterprises, the Internet counts as a special case, because this line of state-owned enterprises can not play, foreign enterprises can not come in, see other industries of foreign enterprises.