The meaning of "talking" here is that people who have certain dominance over things interfere in the process of dealing with things.
"Shuo" Pinyin: shuō huà Basic explanation: ① Expressed in language. "Pay attention to your discretion when you speak." 2 blame; speak "If you shout so loudly, people will talk." 3 party: chat. "This person speaks very interestingly." Party 4: refers to the accent. "Listen to his accent, not from Shandong." 5 mouth; Time is short. "Just talk." 6. A folk art in the Song Dynasty, just like storytelling now.