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Summer interview
City Express (hereinafter referred to as "Express"): Many people think you are very free when reading travel notes. Do you feel that you are in a state of freedom when traveling?

Xia: The difference between me and others is that I pay more attention to my inner feelings when traveling. I will look back on my life in the first 20 years and pay more attention to the changes that have taken place in my heart during my travel.

Freedom is the goal I have been pursuing and trying to achieve, so I will quit my job to travel and start a business after I come back. I have always hoped to find a state of relative freedom in my life, but there is no complete freedom in my life. The degree of freedom is related to the stress and quality of treatment in different stages of life. If I handle it well, I can achieve relative spiritual freedom. Travel is a better way to relax and find freedom. In addition, the way you travel and the companions you choose will also affect your freedom.

It is true that you can gain inner freedom for a period of time through travel, but travel is short after all, and people can't always go out to play and walk. When you come back, you should go back to your normal life and continue on the road, which is also a relatively free state.

Express: How do I stay on the road in my daily life?

Xia: Always keep the state of departure, don't be a frog in warm water, and always keep freshness and enthusiasm.

Express: Many people can travel now, but travel is limited to taking pictures and eating delicious food. How can you know yourself better during the trip like you do?

Xia Xiaowan: When I first went out to play, I was limited to taking photos and eating delicious food. But after I walked more, I found that scenery and food became less and less important. Even though I took a lot of photos, I didn't get anything in them. When I came back, I would feel very empty-I think this is a "post-trip symptom".

I later learned to put travel and reading together. I think reading and walking have always been the two most important parts of life. Read for a while and walk for a while. It is an old saying that "read thousands of books and follow Wan Li Road", but it is really helpful after putting it into practice. Gradually, the proportion of taking pictures and eating will decrease. Sometimes I give up a lot of beautiful things because I take pictures, and I feel bad, so I simply don't take pictures. Later, when I went out to travel, I brought very few things every time. I brought my camera only for recording, and I didn't take taking pictures as the most important part. I will take a notebook with me. Before going to bed every day, I will record the places I went on this day, the songs I saw, or a sentence I thought of in the book. When you come back, when those beautiful scenery have disappeared in front of you, when sorting out your travel memories, these things that record your heart will be more important than photos.

Express: The name of your travel notes is "If you don't start, you will get old", so you won't start when you get old?

Xia Xiaowan: Being young is more of a state of mind. Some people are young, but psychologically old. In fact, the aging of age will have an impact on travel. When I go to some places, I think I should go while I am young, otherwise I may not adapt to the natural environment there when I am old. The earth is moving, so we should go to some places before it is too late.

I suggest you cherish this age when you haven't wasted your youth, and try to go where you want to go and see the scenery you want to see. In fact, as long as you want to go to a place in your heart, you will definitely go.