In Jin Yong's martial arts world, the level of a person's martial arts is mainly determined by several aspects. The first is opportunity, which is given by God. The most obvious figures, such as Di Yun and Yutan, rely mainly on luck to achieve peerless magic. Of course, almost every protagonist also has good luck that ordinary people can't repair in a few lifetimes, but most of the protagonists are not bad in their own qualifications, so they can quickly achieve peerless magic. The second is qualification, which is also obvious in the protagonist. Of course, it does not rule out some protagonists with average qualifications but particularly good luck. The most obvious qualifications are shown in those masters who started schools, such as Huang Shang, Zhang Sanfeng and Wang Zhongyang. The third is achievement method. Kung fu can really improve people, but it is also aimed at people with good talents. Some people have mastered peerless techniques, but they can't practice at home. For example, after Guo Jing, no one has practiced the eighteen palms of the dragon. The only superb martial art that does not choose talent is the Sunflower Collection, but at the cost of losing the dignity of a man. The fourth is the number of years of internship, which can be said to be the least valuable. For example, some people practice for 70 or 80 years, but it is better to practice for five years as a genius, such as Ke Zhene.
So compare Wang Zhongyang's martial arts with Guo Jing's martial arts in his later years, and you can see what they both have. Wang Zhongyang has talents, while Guo Jing has opportunities and achievements. At the peak, which of them is better in martial arts?
Let's look at Wang Zhongyang first. Wang Zhongyang's sculpture shooting is recognized as the first of the five wonders, ranking first in the world. Some people may say that he is much older than the other four stunts, but in fact, Wang Zhongyang's martial arts training time may not be as long as others, because Wang Zhongyang is a scholar, full of feelings of helping the world, and he only came into contact with martial arts in his twenties and thirties. But Wang Zhongyang was born rational. He read Taoist classics, and when he read them, he sublimated, and he realized martial arts. On the other hand, Wang Zhongyang is bent on resisting gold and defending its country. For Wang Zhongyang, martial arts is something he doesn't care about at all. It was given to him by God. But it is this unintentional bud that makes his martial arts invincible.
After the failure of resisting gold, Wang Zhongyang lost interest and founded Quanzhen Sect with several disciples. In the process of missionary work, Wang Zhongyang's philosophy has always been that Taoism puts self-cultivation first and martial arts second. His own martial arts is the best in the world. Why should he reject martial arts instead? Because Wang Zhongyang's martial arts is effortless, it is achieved by self-enlightenment, which is very different from those ordinary martial arts masters who study hard and practice hard. For him, improving his self-cultivation is the first priority, and martial arts are dispensable. When a person is enlightened and cultivated, martial arts will naturally come. Unfortunately, Wang Zhongyang overestimated the talents of ordinary people. You know, if you look at Taoist classics like him, you can become a peerless master. There may be one in Wulin in a hundred years, and the last such figure is Huang Shang. Therefore, he founded Quanzhen religion. Although he taught his disciples to learn martial arts, he repeatedly warned them that learning martial arts was serious and not doing business. In order not to delay his disciples' cultivation, he didn't teach many powerful martial arts, preferring to be buried in a coffin. Quanzhen Qizi's qualifications are limited and he didn't get the best martial arts. He can only be a hero in front of ordinary masters, which is a far cry from the gap between the four masters.
In fact, Wang Zhongyang's road to cultivation is exactly the same as Huang Shang's. Huang Shang is older. He was very old when he helped the emperor revise Taoist classics. After proofreading, he unconsciously became a martial arts master. Later, I had a fight with a Jianghu expert, and my family was killed. He was the only one who fought his way out, but he was also scarred. In order to get revenge, he studied the martial arts of every master for decades. When he took revenge, all his enemies died of old age. He felt bored, so he sorted out and summarized the martial arts he had learned. Wang Zhongyang is similar to him, but he founded Quanzhen Sect with the purpose of inheriting Taoist ideas, and his martial arts is relatively weak. For example, his greatest achievement was passed on to Nandi instead of his disciples. In addition to some basic martial arts, he also has a lot of profound martial arts, followed him into the coffin.
How high is Wang Zhongyang's martial arts? On the surface, it took Wang Zhongyang Huashan seven days and seven nights to tame the other four stunts, which seemed to be half a raise higher than the four stunts at that time. But in fact, decades later, both Si Jue and his younger brother Zhou sincerely admired him, and Zhou only felt the profound meaning taught him in those years. It can be said that Wang Zhongyang's first talk about swords in Huashan can already be described as unfathomable.
Guo Jing's trajectory is clear, and he began to learn martial arts from the Six Monsters. Because of his blunt qualifications and the fact that the Six Monsters are not smart, Guo Jing didn't learn any clever kung fu, so he couldn't cultivate a good physique. Guo Jing is not qualified, but there is one thing that human beings can't reach, that is, his unparalleled tenacity, so he is very suitable for practicing martial arts with simple changes and repeated exercises. When Ma Yu taught him Quanzhen's internal skills, Guo Jing only took one look. But this growth is still too slow to meet the protagonist's setting, so the author gave him a medicine snake that has been treasured for decades. After Guo Jing ate it, his internal force increased greatly, which is the basis of practicing the eighteen palms of dragon.
Hong Qigong is one of the best instructors in the Jianghu, and Guo Jing, who has learned the eighteen palms of the dragon, suddenly began to understand. In fact, there are such people in reality. It is difficult to learn a thing at first, but they never give up and stick to it. One day, they suddenly understand that it is not good. Later, Guo Jing learned some magic skills, such as Empty Ming Boxing, left-right mutual fighting and so on. Worst of all, Guo Jing later cultivated a complete nine-yin true sutra, and his martial arts is so high that he can be said to be the first person in the world.
There is a detail in the sculpture, that is to say, Wang Zhongyang had an enemy, that is, Lin Chaoying, who created a set of martial arts to restrain the real martial arts, which Wang Zhongyang could not crack. Later, Wang Zhongyang read "Nine Yin Zhen Jing" and successfully cracked it. In other words, Wang Zhongyang's martial arts accomplishment is not as good as Huang Shang's.
Therefore, if you really start work, Wang Zhongyang at the peak is probably no match for Guo Jing. After all, Guo Jing's nine yin and Zhen Jing plus the eighteen palms of the dragon are an impeccable combination. But Wang Zhongyang is, after all, a genius who created his own martial arts, and his understanding and creativity in martial arts is not comparable to that of Guo Jing.
Guo Jing certainly surpassed Wang Zhongyang in martial arts in his later years.
At the end of the condor heroes, that is, the peak of Guo Jing's martial arts, Guo Jing's martial arts at this time definitely surpassed Wang Zhongyang in The Condor Heroes. Because: First, Wang Zhongyang became a monk halfway, but his talent was extremely high. After 20 or 30 years of practice, he became the first martial arts master in the world; Second, if Wang Zhongyang hadn't died so early, his martial arts would still have a lot of room for improvement. Third, Guo Jing has been guided and helped by many excellent experts in his growth, so that he can be as excellent as the "four musts" before he is twenty years old; Fourth, Guo Jing began to learn the Nine-Yin Sutra at the age of eighteen, and by the end of The Condor Heroes, he had practiced the Nine-Yin Sutra for more than 30 years, and his martial arts had become superb.
Wang Zhongyang was born in a rich family. When he was young, he devoted himself to studying literature. Later, in his twenties, he began to practice martial arts. Later, he joined the anti-Jin struggle and formed an anti-Jin army, which resisted Jin for several years. After the defeat, he lived in seclusion in Zhong Nanshan and founded Quanzhen Sect. At this time, he had the mind to concentrate on studying Taoism and martial arts. Wang Zhongyang is a man of great talent. According to his younger brother Zhou, he is a man with natural divine power. His martial arts came out not by hard work, but by understanding. Understanding Wushu as Tao is Wang Zhongyang's unique talent. That is to say, when Wang Zhongyang died in his fifties, he really learned martial arts for no more than 30 years, and his internal strength for no more than 30 years. As the setting of martial arts novels, this is obviously a short board. Look at Zhou, a martial artist. The older you get, the purer your kung fu is and the higher your kung fu is. Therefore, Wang Zhongyang's martial arts level did not reach its peak.
When Huang, Ouyang Feng, Duan Zhixing and Hong Qigong were invited to participate in the first Huashan sword talk, he was already in his fifties, and the other four were all ten or twenty years younger than him. Qiu was invited to participate in the first Huashan sword talk, but Qiu refused on the grounds that Tiezhang had not achieved great success. In fact, the other four people's unique skills have not yet reached the point of perfection, and it is not a great success. In this case, Wang Zhongyang can stand out. But in the end, after seven days and seven nights of theoretical discussion and actual competition, Wang Zhongyang won by a narrow margin. After Wang Zhongyang came to Dali, he learned Duan Zhixing's one-yang finger and used it to break Ouyang Feng's frog skill before he died. Wang Zhongyang read "Nine Yin Zhen Jing" before his death, from which he learned a lot of exquisite martial arts. Unfortunately, he died immediately. If he hadn't died so early, his martial arts actually had a lot of room for improvement. In fact, the level after the first Huashan sword talk is not as good as that of Huang Hehong.
Guo Jing has been labeled as "retarded" since he was a child. As the saying goes, he is stupid and doesn't understand. But Guo Jing has his unique advantages, that is, indomitable spirit and stubborn personality. If others practice a hundred times, I will practice a thousand times, and I will die with you. With this spirit, it can be said that learning anything can make progress that others can't imagine. More importantly, Guo Jing got a lot of help and guidance from noble people on the road of growth: First, Wan Li, not far from Ma Yu, went to the desert to teach authentic Xuanmen internal skills, which laid a solid foundation for his internal skills; Then, with the help of Huang Rong, he won the favor of Hong Qigong, a "northern beggar", and taught him to subdue the dragon with eighteen palms, so that he could break through the bottleneck and quickly move towards a first-class master; Later, on Taohua Island, Professor Zhou gave a detailed explanation and guidance to Jiuyin, which made Guo Jing fully understand Jiuyin and played a great role in the following decades. Finally, Ouyang Feng and Zhou got a rigorous and biting practical training, which made him equal to the "four unique skills" before he was twenty years old.
For Guo Jing, his martial arts improved so fast that he later surpassed his master Hong Qigong, largely due to the guidance and promotion of Jiuyin Zhen Jing. Needless to say, the magic of Jiuyin Zhen Jing, a wonderful book in Wulin, otherwise it would not cause disputes and struggles among many Wulin experts in Jianghu. Ouyang Feng was originally on an equal footing with the other three in the "Four Musts" of martial arts, but since he took the "Nine Yin Zhen Jing" tampered with by Guo Jing, he has actually become a superb master. Hong Qigong, Huang and Guo Jing were all defeated by Ouyang Feng in the second Huashan sword discussion. Wang Zhongyang leafed through the Nine Yin Zhen Classics, which he couldn't crack even if he wanted to break his head, but he could get along with it by cracking it. After Zhou learned the Nine Classics by heart (without deliberate practice), his martial arts also advanced by leaps and bounds. Even Huang is no match for him. On the other hand, Guo Jing has been practicing Jiuyin Zhen Jing for more than 30 years. It can be said that his martial arts have already reached its peak and become superb. Wang Zhongyang is no match for Guo Jing.
Brother is just a legend. Wang Zhongyang appeared in the sculpture as a dead man, and his "deeds and martial arts" were relayed from the old urchin, including the recognition of the other four Absolute Wang Zhongyang. But in martial arts, Wang Zhongyang is no match for Guo Jing. In the sculpture, King Jinlun said: You four Wulin masters in the Central Plains are not afraid at all (this is the truth). But the old urchin said, no matter how powerful you are, if my brother were here, you could not beat him. This is obviously bragging. It should be said that Wang Zhongyang and King Jinlun are of the same order of magnitude. And Guo Jing can defeat King Jinlun.
Besides, Guo Jing. Guo Jing should be very young when he died, and he should be about the same as Wang Zhongyang, both of whom were about fifty years old. But Guo Jing's martial arts should be much higher than Wang Zhongyang's. Guo Jing can beat the Golden Wheel French King, but Wang Zhongyang may not. Wang Zhongyang and Guo Jing's martial arts are based on real internal skills. But Guo Jing's martial arts absorbed the strengths of many families. With the complete set of Nine Yin Sutra, Wang Zhongyang can be completely defeated. Sculpture in the end, Guo Jing should have the qualification of martial arts first, but Yang Guo and Zhou are not necessarily Guo Jing's opponents. Poor Guo Jing has never reached the recognized peak position of being the best in the world.
Practically speaking, Wang Zhongyang won the first place in the world with his martial arts. Well deserved. The first Huashan sword competition was the most convincing and solid competition, which lasted for seven days and seven nights. It is not easy for Wang Zhongyang to win the game. The second time was half, and the third time was no match at all. Is "recommended" but it goes without saying that Guo Jing is the first, and the old urchin is just a figurehead.
In his later years, Guo Jing could almost set up his own school. A generation of masters Absolutely higher than Guo Jing. Zhang Sanfeng admired Guo Jing in his later years. I have always felt that I am not as good as Guo Jing. But Wang Zhongyang has not reached this level. Guo Jing was able to create his own martial arts in his later years. Wang Zhongyang doesn't have this ability. It should be said that in terms of trilogy, Guo Jing should be second only to Zhang Wuji. Wang Zhongyang may not be in the top five.
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Guo Jing's martial arts in his later years, the old evil thought, is definitely beyond Wang Zhongyang. It's hard to say if you learn martial arts. After all, Guo Jing is relatively dull, and it is necessary to guard Xiangyang, so there is not much time to learn martial arts. But in terms of martial arts strength, Wang Zhongyang is definitely not as good as Guo Jing.
Guo Jing is plain, but his adventure is better. He learned a top martial arts, and Guo Jing worked hard and devoted himself to it. By the end of The Legend of the Condor Heroes, his martial arts was comparable to that of Wang Zhongyang, the first man in Huashan. At the beginning of The Condor Heroes, Guo Jing in his thirties was almost the best in the world.
When Guo Jing was in his twenties, he was able to fight with Huang Hehong for 300 strokes. At this time, his martial arts is already an excellent master. When Guo Jing was in his thirties, he fought with Ouyang Feng, and both of them were seriously injured, so it was even. When he was in his fifties, it was hard to say how good his martial arts were.
Judging from other people's comments and when Mr. Jin Yong often mentions him, he is highly praised. For example, when Huang praised Yang Guo's "ecstasy palm", he mentioned Guo Jing, and thought that only Guo Jing's "eighteen palms of the dragon" could compete with Yang Guo's "ecstasy palm".
Also, in Xiangyang War, Mr. Jin Yong mentioned Guo Jing and Zhou many times, but rarely mentioned Huang and Eden. According to the truth, Guo Jing, who was in his fifties, should be the "best in the world" at that time. On the erudition of internal work, Guo Jing has Nine Yin Zhen Classics; On external work, there is "eighteen palms of the dragon"; On the exquisite moves, there are martial arts such as "Fighting Left and Right".
Guo Jing is comprehensive in all aspects, and its age is in its prime.
Although Wang Zhongyang won the first prize of Huashan Mountain, his martial arts did not reach the top level at that time, which should be similar to Guo Jing at the end of The Legend of the Condor Heroes. By the time he died, his martial arts must have improved a lot, but time was limited.
For the first time in Huashan, five people fought for seven days and seven nights, and finally Wang Zhongyang won the other four. At that time, Wang Zhongyang was in his fifties, Duan Zhixing was in his forties, and the other three were only in their thirties. First of all, Wang Zhongyang fought them one by one, not one against four, which shows that Wang Zhongyang is a little better than them.
At that time, Hong Qigong's "Eighteen Dragons" had not been fully practiced, and his martial arts was not as good as that of Guo Jing at the end of The Legend of the Condor Heroes. And Wang Zhongyang is a little better than him, so strong. After returning to China, Wang Zhongyang secretly read the Nine Yin Zhen Classics, which improved his self-cultivation, but he did not practice, and soon died.
At this time, the martial arts are at most equivalent to Huang and others in the second Huashan sword, or even worse. Martial arts became a monk halfway, with a poor foundation, but with high talent, old age and rich experience. But these will only make him improve his martial arts quickly, and will not make him like a virtual bamboo.
So the old evil thought that Guo Jing's martial arts must have surpassed Wang Zhongyang's, while Wang Zhongyang's martial arts was not particularly fierce. He became a monk halfway and died in his fifties. How powerful the martial arts function is, it is only the times that have made him.
And Guo Jing is hard, step by step, when he is in his fifties, his martial arts must be better than Wang Zhongyang's.
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Don't need old age, in fact, at the beginning of the book "The Condor Heroes", Guo Jing in his thirties has far surpassed Wang Zhongyang in those days. Even at the end of The Legend of the Condor Heroes, when Guo Jing was twenty or twenty-one, he had surpassed Wang Zhongyang in the first Huashan sword.
When Huashan talked about swords, Wang Zhongyang really won the title of "the first martial art in the world". But at this time, Wang Zhongyang was very old, and it was the peak period or platform period of Wushu. The other four teenagers are still in the rising period of martial arts.
We can check Hong Qigong's age. In episode 12 of The Legend of the Condor Heroes, Hong Qigong first appeared as a middle-aged beggar. Huang Rong heart way:
So how big is Qiu Chuji? In The Legend of the Condor Heroes, Qiu Chuji made his debut and wrote:
This year is five or six years after the first Huashan sword talk, so when Huashan sword talk for the first time, Hong Qigong was in his thirties, and his martial arts had not reached its peak. Moreover, it is clearly pointed out in the book that Hong Qigong's eighteen palms of dragon-fighting have not been practiced completely. If he had practiced hard a few years earlier, he could have practiced eighteen palms of dragon-fighting, and perhaps he could have surpassed Wang Zhongyang and won the title of "the best martial art in the world":
The first time was a one-on-one competition of five people, and it was the best in the world for seven days and seven nights. The last five people were exhausted and took Huang's "Jiuhua Yulu Pill" to recover their strength. Even if every two people play one game, it's only 24 games, with an average of three or four games a day. This shows that Wang Zhongyang is only slightly better than the four levels, and everyone has to strive for at least several thousand steps to decide the outcome. If Wang Zhongyang can win easily, why fight for seven days and seven nights?
The second Huashan sword talk, the four absolutely improved, and it also entered the peak period or platform period, and there was not much room for improvement.
On the second Huashan sword, Guo Jingneng and Huang Hehong fought 300 strokes respectively. Huang believes that if you give in a little more, you will lose to Guo Jing:
And Hong Qigong also dare not to confront Guo Jing, only dare to outwit:
It can be seen that at this time, Guo Jing lost only a little more than the four-off, probably better than Wang Zhongyang.
On the other hand, the crazy version of Ouyang Feng easily defeated Hong Qigong and Huang and persuaded them. It can be seen that Ouyang Feng far surpassed Wang Zhongyang in those days.
The second episode of The Condor Heroes clearly states that Guo Jing and Ouyang Feng are neck and neck.
Moreover, Guo Jing combined Jiuyin Zhenjing and Eighteen Dragon Palm into one, and one palm can add thirteen qi, which is better than Hong Qigong's second theory:
Visible at this time of Guo Jing far more than Wang Zhongyang.
Wang Zhongyang is not as bad as everyone thinks, and it is inferred that it is even worse than Li Mochou.
The reason is this: When Guo Rong first saw Hong Qigong in the sculpture, Hong Qigong was a middle-aged beggar, several years younger than Qiu Chuji, so he was almost forty years old.
Huang and Hong are about the same age, maybe younger, so they should be in their forties, not their fifties. Twenty years ago, when Huang took part in Huashan sword talk, he was less than 30 years old, but in his twenties.
What about Huang Wugong in his twenties? Huang was shocked when he saw Yang Guo practicing martial arts in the sculpture, because he was only 30 years old and had the realm of Yang Guo, which shows that Yang Guo's martial arts was still above Huang when Huashan talked about swords.
Although Yang Guo's martial arts was better than Huang's when Huashan was talking about swords, he was hunted down at this time, which shows that he was far behind.
Although the fighting skill in Huashan is better than that of Huang, it is only slightly better than that of Yang Guo, and Yang Guo is stronger than Huang. Therefore, according to inference, Wang Zhongyang is worse than Li Mochou, even worse than Guo Jing.
The above is pure nonsense, making everyone laugh.
When Huashan talks about swords, Dong Xie, Du Fu, Nan Di, Bei Gai and Zhong prodigy. They fought for three days and nights, regardless of the outcome. So what should we do? If we keep fighting like this, everyone will be unbearable. After all, this is a competition, and we can't end up with everyone disabled.
Therefore, Wang Zhongyang proposed a truce again. Decide the result in other ways. Wang Zhongyang pointed to the box containing the Nine Yin Scriptures and told everyone. Say I hold the box steady with my fingers, you can push it at will, and if you can push it, I lose.
Gee, this can make others excited. Your fingers are stronger than my fists and palms. One by one refused to accept the war, and finally they were persuaded.
It can also be seen that Wang Zhongyang's kung fu is a little higher than others, but not much. If it is much higher, it is necessary to cultivate one's disciples and younger brothers, without fear that Ouyang Feng will rob Jiuyin Zhen Jing. So when I was old, I went to Nandi to exchange kung fu and practice one Yang finger, which hurt Ouyang Feng. But he was not killed.
Look at Guo Jing's martial arts. He didn't know he was in ecstasy until he came out of Yang Guo. When playing chess with Huang, Huang once lamented that his sword was not as good as his palm. Only Guo Jing's Eighteen Dragons can match its strength. But at that time, Guo Jing's eighteen palms were both rigid and flexible. Guo Jing's internal skills at that time became more and more severe after practicing the Nine Yin True Classics. Yang Guo was also amazed that the light attack behind the ladder was completely supported by the ultra-deep internal force.
Wang Zhongyang's Kung Fu is a pioneering work with profound internal force. At this point, in his later years, Guo Jing's internal strength must have reached this level or higher. After all, he practiced the Nine Yin True Classics. Moreover, the martial arts in Jiuyin Zhen Jing are also all kinds of martial arts realized by predecessors, which are very powerful.
There is also an interesting, Chongyang's brother Zhou, fighting with each other. . This thing is unusual. Just look at the little dragon girl's hands. So in his later years, Guo Jing will only be more powerful than a real man. When Zhou hit the golden wheel French king, he said that Chongyang was near-re-embodiment, and he could hit the golden wheel with more than a dozen strokes, but he was still bragging.
It's over. Huashan talks about swords, but Hong Qigong only knows 15. He thinks that all the eighteen palms will not lose, that is, Wang Zhongyang's level in discussing swords in Huashan once is the same as that in shooting four unique sculptures. Guo Jing's shooting sculptures are basically close to the later four wonders, but if you fight left and right, it is higher than the four wonders. In the later period of sculpture, Guo Jing's Nine Yin Scriptures were all memorized by heart, making him invincible in the world. Even in the early stage of sculpture, Guo Jing was almost as crazy as Ouyang Feng, while Ouyang Feng was higher than Nandi, Beigai and Dongxie in the later stage of sculpture, which means that Guo Jing in the early stage of sculpture is equal to three Wang Zhongyang. After the Battle of Huashan Sword, Wang Zhongyang's martial arts certainly improved, and Wang Zhongyang also learned the Nine Yin True Classics. With the progress of Wang Zhongyang, it is really difficult to measure the highest level of Wang Zhongyang's life, but it is estimated that it is still higher than that of Guo Jing's later period.
Guo Daxia has the mind to save the world, which won the praise of real people in Chongyang. Only by saving the heart of the world can we achieve great success in Wushu. Guo Jing's qualification is not bad, plus Jiuyin Encyclopedia, Quanzhen Xuanmen's internal skill, Beidou footwork, gold (left foot stepping on right foot), fighting left and right, flying with fists, and lowering the dragon with eighteen palms. With years of practice and the mind of being a chivalrous man for the country and the people, martial arts will naturally break through the barriers of martial arts and become a superb master. Because of the early death of the real Chongyang, martial arts may not reach its peak, but Guo Jing's final achievement may be above that of Wang Zhongyang.
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